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I was running all day with Seasmoke.
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Obviously, there is an element
of "anything can go wrong"
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but it doesn't, it won't.
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Very good Health and Safety
on "House of the Dragon."
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I can't believe they got away with that.
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I was so lucky to watch it firsthand.
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We're always ready for whatever they're
gonna throw at us.
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I'm a Targaryen, baby. Ya know?
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When I got my script and I realized that
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Paddy was in two of my scenes,
I was really thrilled by that.
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Did you say it?
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"The Heir for a Day."
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I love Paddy, I really do,
and I miss him terribly,
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and I miss what he brought to the show
and also to the set.
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The things you don't see on camera.
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Have you got your pictures?
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- Thank you, love.
- Lovely.
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Ryan had hinted at me
coming back and I was like,
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"Well, how you gonna manage that one?"
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And the first day that I came to set,
there were actually people
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when I arrived, who were a bit like,
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you know, you could feel
this reaction like,
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"The king's here, the king's here!"
It was kind of odd, really.
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And seeing these giant statues,
now you're dead.
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You're just this giant carving.
Well, I'd walked past it about 20 times,
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and then I just sort of
caught it and went, "Whoa!"
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I told my wife about this and she said,
"That's amazing. Can we have it?"
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And I said, "No, we can't
put that in the garden.
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You can see it from fucking space."
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If we don't build a small version,
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then we never have a quick way
of working out our mistakes.
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And then, when it comes to
the big version, we know what to do.
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Our chief sculptor got
the likeness absolutely perfectly.
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And when you're talkin' about
working in a piece of
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four-meter by four-meter polystyrene,
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it isn't always the easiest thing
to get somebody's likeness.
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It's so much more difficult
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when it has to look like someone
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'cause it's easy to have all
the features of someone's face
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and it not look like them
at the same time.
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So, it was great to actually feel proud
about something you've worked on.
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Daemon's dreams are
an interesting aspect of this season.
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I think it was very important
for both Paddy and for Matt
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to ground the dreams in reality.
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There's the second dream
where he comes across Viserys
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who is mourning Queen Aemma and their son
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after the tragic cesarean section
of season one.
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Why is my son wrapped in a shit rag?!
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- That's the scene, innit?
- Yeah.
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Because the Silent Sisters' set
has a wall of candles,
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the challenge for us
and the art department was
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that they needed to be lit all the time,
but they would burn out.
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So, we came in in the morning
and Vanja had said,
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"Listen, guys, we need
the candles lit all day
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'cause I'm using them for lighting."
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I have to keep the candles
going the whole day?
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And Vanja was like, "Yeah."
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We could only work when
all the candles were on,
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so we couldn't make any decisions
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before all the candles were lit.
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So many candles. I can't believe that
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there's a single candle
remaining in England
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after our show comes through here
like candle locusts.
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I wasn't nervous because I knew
I was in good hands,
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so compared to some other
fire work that we were doing,
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this was, it seems, very safe.
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Lick the-- Fuckin' hair goes all...
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We were in Cáceres and the exterior
of the Grand Sept location
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which has a steep staircase
that comes down the front of it.
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Rickard Thorne gets Alicent from the Sept
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and they come outside
and we have a large crowd.
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It was definitely one of
the most challenging scenes.
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Fifteen or 20 horses, 180 extras,
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day and a half to shoot it,
and the sun's going down.
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One thing that really stood out to me
was the passion and energy and love
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that the background artists work with.
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They really take it seriously.
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They really want to get into character.
They really want to give you 100%.
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We're asking them to create
these little stories
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within the scene
where they're arguing over food,
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or they're having conversations,
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or running in different directions.
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One of the early decisions
for the riot scene
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was that we wanted to shoot it almost like
a documentary style,
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as if we were reporters
hidden inside the crowd
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with the handheld cameras and long lens,
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which we could only do
because the stunt coordination
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and the way the crowd
was directed was so realistic
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that we could employ that approach.
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We wanted to stage it with
as many cameras as possible,
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so she can really run down the stairs
and do all the actions continuously
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without us interrupting her
for different angles and different shots.
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And we wanted to see
Alicent bein' pelted with fish
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by the starving townspeople.
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And, obviously, they couldn't be good fish
otherwise they'd be eatin' 'em.
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We were concerned about how many times
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we're going to try
to hit Olivia with the fish.
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Even though it was a prop,
it was still nasty.
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We had this methyl cellulose that we mixed
into a kind of pinkish, gray sludge.
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We then have a nominated stunt performer
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who's the fish thrower.
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Olivia, who's not only a fabulous actress,
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but very generous and giving
with her performance,
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and she's like, "Yeah, just hit me
with the fish. It's fine."
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You know, "Let's not use the double."
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By the way, the person who threw the fish
used to be a pro cricket player.
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When I say my head swiveled 360,
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I'm not, I'm not jokin'.
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We'd done one fish hit and I thought,
"Oh, that was great!"
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But I don't think it was
quite perfect for Andrij
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and he needed it again.
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The second hit was, like,
really gooey and juicy,
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you know, and we got her,
so it was worth it.
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They spent all day running
down these steps and I'm like,
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"Oh, how many times are we gonna
run down these steps?"
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We ran so much up and down those steps
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in the heat, in this dress.
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Olivia, there's a bit where she falls down
the steps at the end,
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and it was always planned that
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she falls towards us onto a mat.
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Rowley's just like, "Just fall."
And I'm like, "Yeah, but
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I'm running down some steps."
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He's like, "Yeah, yeah,
you'll be fine. Just fall."
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I'm like, "Okay."
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We put some decent knee pads on her
and she did a really convincing fall.
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I mean, if this acting doesn't work out,
she can come work with us.
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It was fine. It was fine.
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In the middle of the sequence,
we have an elderly man that asks for food,
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played by a very seasoned
stunt performer called Terry Cade,
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who's in his mid-70s and still performing.
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He grabs hold of Alicent
and gets his hand chopped off
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by one of the Kingsguard.
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This is the trigger
for the crowd to erupt and go crazy.
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Prosthetics gave us the arm,
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and we used that for the arm
landing on the floor shot.
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We do a shot with a blue sleeve,
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we do a shot where Terry
physically grabbed Olivia,
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and then we did the sword coming down,
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but obviously
stopping short of Terry's arm.
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Action!
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You have to do a combination of shots
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to deliver the final effect
for something like that.
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The guy having his arm
chopped off is this much in the script,
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so you're spending a lot of shooting hours
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for a very small moment.
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Fuckin' escalated quickly, didn't it?
Someone lost his fuckin' arm.
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It was really fun. It was really fun.
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I'd look back at Phia
and we're both runnin',
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and she's got this massive
smile on her face.
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We'd got the adrenaline rush of
almost like it was like a roller coaster.
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Like, every time, I kind of
believed it was real
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because I think if I had stopped,
I would've been trampled.
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It was, like, pretty scary.
But I don't get to, like,
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do the running around stuff
in this show very much,
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so it was really, really fun.
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Prosthetics, stunts,
Olivia's contribution.
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That was a really good team effort.
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You go through all the emotions
in a day as a director.
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Hopefully, you leave
sort of relieved or satisfied,
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and it was definitely
that feeling at the end of that.
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Okay, folks, so, we're gonna
break for lunch here now. Thank you.
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Alyn and Addam of Hull,
the bastard sons of Corlys,
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and they have very different
attitudes about Corlys.
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Alyn's the one that has
the Targaryen blood,
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the silver hair that
he needs to shave every day
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so that no one else recognizes it.
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The challenge is that person
can shave only one time
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before we have to wait for
a couple of months for the hair to grow.
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I remember reading the scene and thinking,
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how are they gonna do this?
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When I read the script, I was like,
"Oh, this is gonna have to--
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ya know, how are we gonna make this work?"
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The haircutting scene with Alyn of Hull
was probably one of the trickiest scenes
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that we had in the episode.
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I think we had as many meetings
about the riot in Spain
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as we did about the haircut.
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The hair and makeup team here
are just on another level,
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and they came up
with this really cool idea
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of, essentially, spraying
my head with white hair,
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but it would stick on end
and we'd get this dull razor
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that allowed me to shave it
with water and take it off,
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and it looks incredible.
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We ended up with a double
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who was actually one
of the props department,
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who was a really good match
for Abubakar and the hair.
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Obviously, we had lovely Steph
who's a crew member
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and he was just walkin',
mindin' his own business.
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I think he was getting scanned by Waldo
to be one of the ratcatchers, I believe.
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Every time you see somebody
cut their hair, it was a double.
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I've never had to shave
my head in my life,
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but this is something that Alyn has done
religiously, every day,
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and so, I had to make it look like
it was a ritualistic act.
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We even got one of our barbers,
as well, to come in
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to tell us how to actually
properly shave the head.
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I'm imaginin' that the blade
will be wet, right?
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So, I'll be wettin' the blade
and then comin' back
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- and then comin' down--
- No, you wet your hair.
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I'd wet the hair,
so the hair would be wet.
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And so, to have the right people around
to tell me that,
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I didn't have to really
think about the act of it,
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all I had to think about was the scene
and what I was doing.
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We cut from Abu and we actually used
a close-up of Steph,
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and then we used Mark as the hand
to use the cut throat.
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So it involved, like,
four different people
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to achieve this one look.
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So, I feel like, after this,
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I won't be able to walk
around with my hands up
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because everyone's gonna
notice it and be like,
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"Hey, those are the hands!"
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Like, even me as Clinton,
I'm like, "Why would you shave
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that beautiful silver hair?"
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If I had that hair,
I'd be rockin' it every day.
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- Stand up straight.
- Yeah, you're with your f-- your dad.
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Rhaenyra, in her desperation
to have a dragonrider,
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goes into the archives
in the Valyrian temple
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and finds out that Darklyn's
ancestry is connected
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with the Targaryen ancestry,
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and therefore, thinks that
it's a good idea for Darklyn
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to potentially be paired
with Seasmoke as a rider.
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We have the sense that
Seasmoke is missing his bond.
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That's why Rhaenyra
seizes upon that idea that,
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perhaps, he's lonely
to try to give him a companion
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in Ser Steffon Darklyn,
who becomes Ser Steffon Sparklin'.
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The Dragonmont cavern went
through a lot of process
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in terms of getting the right space,
getting the right height for the gantry,
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getting the right extraction systems
in place so that we could use the fire.
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So technically and logistically,
there was a lot to do.
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Dragonmont is a big network of caves,
so what do you build that connects it
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to the human space of Dragonstone?
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This gantry could exist in this giant cave
and dragons could come up to it,
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and that's how you step on and step off.
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This set, built by Jim Clay,
is 15 feet, 5 meters off the ground.
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Everyone at the beginning
was questioning why it was built so high.
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And then you stand on it and
you understand why it's built that way.
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It's scary.
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We were so high up from the ground
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that we had to worry
not only about the fire,
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but also about nobody
falling off the plinth.
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It was the first time
Rhaenyra attempted this,
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and we didn't know what was
going to happen to Darklyn,
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so the idea was to be
as shocked and surprised
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with his death as Rhaenyra would be.
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So, what do you reckon to this lookin'
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anything like me, do you think?
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I think they've got the nose.
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Maybe it's a bit bigger there than here.
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Stunt masks provide a protection
for the stunt guy,
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which means a thickness of silicone,
which means that we're never gonna be able
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to make it look convincingly like a person
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who hasn't been attacked by bees.
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Do your best Michael Myers impression.
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Then, to be honest, like,
once they're up in flames,
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all you're really aware of is
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that he's got black hair
and he's got two ears,
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and the rest of it
is down to your imagination.
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On season eight of "Thrones,"
we learned that with prosthetics on,
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it felt like havin' a fire mask
'cause the silicone would protect you.
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So this year we went,
"I know what we'll do."
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We'll assume that people have been fully
engulfed initially,
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so they would be burnt
and have lost their hair.
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So, we got Waldo and his team
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to make prosthetic masks
that covered the ears.
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And it's the ears that always get burnt
when you do a burn without a mask on,
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that go 'round the back of the neck,
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so that we could literally
have people on fire
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without masks on, but stood up.
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- That was a bit innovative for us.
- And action!
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I think that it's al-- The knife's already
on there. And then you go...
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like that.
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That's prosthetics on a prosthetic.
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So we have to stick the neck on first
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with the tube, that wound,
running down his back,
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and out the bottom
of his trousers on a pump,
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and then, while he's on fire,
he has to find his mark
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and cut that
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and then, fall to the floor
and all this sort of gushes out.
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That was Levan.
It's one more piece for us to stick on,
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but Levan has to hit all these marks
while he's on fire
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'cause, obviously,
he can't see what he's doin'.
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Yeah, props to Levan.
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Levan, are you okay? Lee, you alright?
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Having thought that I was
up for most things,
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having watched it, I thought,
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"Oh, it turns out, I actually
don't want to be set on fire."
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We provide the fire gel.
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We make it ourselves.
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It's almost like a protection.
They have their own protection on,
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but just the top burns
rather than the costume.
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They put the gel on underneath
and then on top of the costume,
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and then special effects paint them up
with IPA and alcohol and off they go.
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We ignite them with
a flamethrower, which is scary.
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We used a podium one,
which is basically a powder,
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like a pollen,
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and we fire that out and ignite it
at the same time,
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and it burns very clean,
very yellow, and it's very limited.
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You can't be panicky, though, can you,
'cause it's not a good look.
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You gotta be really positive and like,
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"Yeah, it's gonna be great.
It's gonna be fine and..."
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It's just alien to do that.
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It's alien to squirt somebody
with ignited gas, isn't it?
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But you've got to plan it,
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you've got to build it,
you've gotta show Rowley.
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We have dummies that we dress up,
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put them there, squirt them on,
show him how it burns.
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He likes it, he doesn't like it.
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And then, we go to the real people.
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Action!
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One, two, three,
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four, five, six,
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seven, eight, nine, 10!
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Out, out, out!
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You have to be conscious
of when you put people out
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because you can blow
burning stuff off them onto other people
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because they're not out.
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They would burn for a lot longer.
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And then we put some cold towels on them
and stuff like that just to keep 'em cool.
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But if they do that,
we know we're alright, you know?
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Definitely won't be becomin'
a stuntman anytime soon.
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That is mad.
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Felt the heat from there.
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It's always better to do things in camera.
But fire is one of the things,
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just because how it reacts
to wind and movement,
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it's really hard,
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and I don't think it's yet convincing
for that to be computer generated,
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certainly not in its entirety.
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You can enhance, but I don't think you
could replace real flame.
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Not just yet. Maybe 20 years,
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we won't be setting people
on fire anymore,
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but right now, thank goodness,
we can do it better.
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Top man. Thank you, Lev.
Great work.
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Addam is walking home
after a day of fishing
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and there's a chase scene
between him and Seasmoke.
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You look at a storyboard
and go, "That's not so bad."
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And then you go,
"Oh, hang on, it's still going.
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"Oh, it's-- Oh, it's still--
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The shot's still going,
oh, the shot's still going."
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We planned the route,
as you do always,
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as to what does the background look like.
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And often, it's the route
that's the most uncomfortable
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or awkward for the performer.
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Clinton, fantastic actor, great athlete.
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He did all his own stunts.
We provided him with a stunt double
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and he was like, "No, I'm doing this."
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When an actor wants
to do their own stunts,
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I'm at the monitor going like.
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Clinton was so exciting
and he was in such great physical shape.
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We tried to have long takes
and long choreography,
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and for somebody to repeat
that a couple of times,
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running up the hill,
running down the hill,
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could've only done it with him.
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I don't know how we'd
do it with another actor,
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and he was happy to do it every time.
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Shootin' that scene with Seasmoke
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was a dream come true for me.
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As a kid, what did we all imagine
when we were, like, playing,
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you know, make-believe?
It's always a dragon.
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We have this bit at the end
where he falls down this rock face.
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So it was a real rock face,
which we covered
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with a fake rubber rock face,
and he did a great job.
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It's always better if it's in camera
and it's the real person.
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Visual effects cover the dragon overhead.
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We had then picked him up on a drone,
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so we built a drone shot in
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where he runs through
the woods and we track him.
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And then, of course,
we had some local mortar cannons
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that shot debris and tree branches.
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So we had some physical effects.
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When the dragon comes
crashing through the trees,
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we had something
to blast through the shot,
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so that we don't rely completely
on the digital aspect of that.
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And then, of course, when the dragon comes
face to face with Clinton,
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that's when VFX were reintroduced,
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so that we can have that moment where
Clinton and the dragon are nose to nose.
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When we storyboarded the sequence,
and we previs'd it, and we budgeted it,
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we're like, "Okay, it's big,"
and then we shot it.
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It went amazingly well,
but when we got into post,
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it was so good that the scene
doubled in size,
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so we got twice as many dragon shots.
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And can I tell you, you know,
each dragon shot is very expensive.
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I mean, it's like owning a dragon.
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The scene is incredibly dynamic.
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We shot it in a very similar way
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that we shot the Steffon Darklyn moment
just before he's burnt.
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At the moment that Seasmoke
kinda goes in for Addam,
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we cut out of it
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leaving the audience wondering
what's gonna happen next.